Rachel: Ever feel like your emotions are totally driving the bus? You know, like you're just white-knuckling it through a rollercoaster of anger, stress, or fear, hoping you make it out alive? Autumn: Right? And what if, instead of holding on for dear life, you could actually learn to just... let go and enjoy the ride? Today we're cracking open Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender by David R. Hawkins – a book that really lays out a map for how to do just that. Rachel: Hawkins basically says that emotions aren't just these vague feelings, but actually forces that shape our mental health, our relationships, and even, according to him, our spiritual growth. But the cool part is, we're not stuck with them, right? Autumn: Exactly! In this book, Hawkins teaches us how to surrender these heavy, negative emotions – things like guilt, anger, or even fear. The goal here is to make room for, really, “higher” states of being, like love, peace, and joy. It’s not about suppressing emotions or straight up ignoring them. It's about releasing their hold on us. Rachel: Okay, so before we get too into the Zen of it all, let's break down what we're actually going to be exploring today. We've got four main areas to cover. First, understanding the anatomy of emotions. What are they? Where do they come from? And why do they hang around? Autumn: Then, we'll get into Hawkins' techniques for actually overcoming those emotional blockages. Think of them as tools, you know, for clearing the debris that's blocking us from emotional freedom. Rachel: And third, we'll strap on our metaphorical climbing gear and explore what Hawkins calls the ascent to higher states of consciousness. Basically, transcending those lower emotions so we can access feelings like acceptance, love, and, of course, peace. Autumn: And finally, then we'll bring it all back down to earth: How to actually use this stuff in your day-to-day life. Whether it's dealing with conflict or handling stress, Hawkins shows that this surrender thing isn't just some abstract concept. It's practical. Rachel: Okay, sounds like a plan. So let's roll up our sleeves, dive in and see if Hawkins can actually get us from stressed out to, well, serene.

Autumn: Okay, let's dive into the basics—the anatomy of emotions. Hawkins really stresses that emotions aren't just random occurrences; they’re actually deeply connected to our survival instincts. These feelings—like shame, guilt, fear, anger—they initially developed to help us navigate challenges and threats. They were adaptive, you know? Rachel: Right, like, back in the day fear was like your personal alert system, telling you, "Hey, there's a saber-toothed tiger behind that bush. Run!" But now, well, we're less likely to encounter a tiger and more likely to stress over, I don't know, being late for a meeting or our phone battery dying. Autumn: Exactly! It’s as if our emotional programming hasn't quite caught up with modern life. Fear, for example, it was essential for survival when danger was physical and immediate. But today, that same fear can morph into chronic anxiety over hypothetical situations—like obsessing about a performance review or what other people think. It's no longer serving its original purpose; it starts harming rather than helping. Rachel: So, our evolutionary toolbox needs an update, huh? But here’s what gets me. Hawkins treats these emotions not just as feelings but as forces, like vibrational energies. Can you break down this idea of a "vibrational scale" of emotions? Because, I gotta admit, this part feels a little… New Age-y to me. Autumn: Fair enough. Hawkins' vibrational scale, or what he calls the "map of consciousness," positions emotions on a spectrum, from lower vibrational states like shame and guilt to higher ones like love and peace. Each emotion has a measurable energetic frequency, which, he argues, affects our overall state of being—mentally, emotionally, even physically. Rachel: Measurable? Like, we're actually slapping numbers on emotions here? Autumn: Apparently, according to Hawkins, yes. He even assigns numerical calibrations to these energy levels, though... the mechanics behind that are, let's just say, open to interpretation. But the general idea is that lower emotions like shame are depleting and indicate contraction—think social withdrawal, hopelessness, even physical illness. Meanwhile, higher emotions like love and joy foster expansion, creativity, and resilience. Rachel: Alright, shame equals bad vibes, love equals good vibes. Got it. But how does this scale actually translate into real life, everyday situations? Autumn: Great question. Hawkins shares a case where a man was stuck in a cycle of shame and self-doubt. These emotions clouded his judgment, affected his relationships, and kept him stuck in his career. Once he learned to recognize and release these feelings—essentially stop feeding them energy—he was able to shift toward courage. That shift, even though it's just one step up the scale, made a huge difference. He could finally take risks, like changing careers and building healthier connections. Rachel: So, moving up the scale is less about some spiritual revelation and more about getting unstuck—taking that first step out of emotional quicksand, you know? Autumn: Exactly! It starts with awareness—acknowledging where you are on the scale without judgment. And once you see it, you can start releasing those lower emotions. What Hawkins calls the "letting go" technique is key here. Rachel: Oh, now we're getting to the heart of it. Letting go. What does that even mean, practically speaking? Autumn: It's deceptively simple, but profound. To "let go" is to allow an emotion to exist fully without resisting or suppressing it. By sitting with the feeling and observing it without judgment, you dissipate the energy behind it. Over time, it loses its grip on you. Rachel: Is that a fancy way of saying, "Feel your feelings"? Autumn: In a way, yes, but with more precision. You're not just wallowing in the emotion; you're actively releasing it by not clinging to the story behind it. Take the woman Hawkins writes about who struggled with chronic anger after her divorce. She started by acknowledging the anger—this is important—without judging it. Rachel: Sounds less like letting go and more like inviting it to dinner. Autumn: Well, she did let it in, in a sense. Through that process, she uncovered deeper emotions beneath the anger, like grief and fear of abandonment. Once she dealt with those root emotions, her anger naturally began to fade. By the end, she shifted to acceptance, even rebuilding trust in her relationships. Rachel: Okay, but does this method work for everyone? I mean, people deal with emotions in wildly different ways. Autumn: True, but Hawkins suggests that, while the intensity or timing might vary, the process is universal. It's not about fixing or changing the emotion—it's about allowing it to move through you. Think of emotions like waves. Resisting them is like trying to hold back the tide; surrendering allows the wave to pass. Rachel: That actually tracks. Fighting something like grief or anger tends to make it worse. But letting go sounds risky—what if you let go and the tide sweeps you out to sea? Autumn: That's the fear, right? But Hawkins argues the opposite happens. By resisting, we fuel an emotion, giving it more power. Letting go weakens its hold, leaving us with clarity instead of chaos. Rachel: Alright, one point for surrender. But what does this mean for decision-making? If we're carrying all these emotional weights, doesn't that skew our judgment? Autumn: Absolutely. Hawkins talks about how these lower emotions create filters through which we interpret the world. If someone's stuck in guilt, for example, they tend to see everything through the lens of self-blame, which can paralyze decision-making. On the flip side, someone operating from courage or higher can face challenges head-on and think more creatively. Rachel: Courage as a jumping-off point—makes sense. It's like the gateway between “everything sucks” and “things might get better.” Autumn: Exactly! Courage represents the shift from being overwhelmed by life to actively engaging with it. And that shift is where real change begins.

Autumn: So, that foundational understanding really sets the stage for tackling emotional blockages, doesn't it? Now that we appreciate how emotions are woven into our survival mechanisms and shape our experiences, Hawkins guides us toward practical healing. Let’s jump into overcoming those blockages, shall we? How about we kick things off with apathy? Rachel: Ah, apathy—a classic. That “meh” feeling, when even getting up seems like a Herculean task. What's Hawkins' take on why it's so, well, “sticky”? Autumn: Hawkins positions apathy at the very base of the emotional scale. It's really rooted in hopelessness, this deep-seated belief that nothing we do matters. It's that "What's the point?" kind of thinking. And often, these thoughts are masking even deeper fears or underlying grief. Rachel: So it's not just laziness—it's more like emotional paralysis caused by excess baggage? Autumn: Exactly. Hawkins recounts the story of a mother who just felt utterly resigned to life's challenges. Apathy had completely taken over, leaving her family emotionally adrift. Her apathy wasn't due to laziness but served as a defense against her fears regarding failure, coupled with unresolved grief from her past. Rachel: Hmm, that makes it way more nuanced than just saying, “get over it.” So, how does one even begin to wade out of that emotional swamp? Autumn: Well, it starts with recognizing that apathy often disguises itself as "I can't," but it's more like "I won't." A crisis can actually be a chance for self-reflection. Hawkins shares this other story of someone who was practically paralyzed by the fear of public speaking, convinced they could "never" possibly speak in front of an audience. By surrendering those fears—allowing themselves to truly feel them—they actually uncovered underlying anger towards their own limitations. Rachel: Interesting. So anger actually became like, a stepping stone? Autumn: Exactly! Anger can be a great motivator, a higher state on Hawkins’ scale. In this case, the person harnessed their anger as fuel, enrolling in a public speaking course. And because they confronted, rather than avoided, those fears, they started growing by leaps and bounds. Rachel: I see how that could snowball. Once you push past that inertia, it might get easier to just keep going. But do these techniques actually stick, though? Autumn: It definitely takes conscious effort. Hawkins emphasizes starting small—focusing on manageable goals and creating a supportive environment. Gratitude is a really powerful tool here, too, helping people shift their focus from what's lacking to what they already have. Rachel: Fair enough. Gratitude probably won't solve everything, but it's tough to stay totally stuck when you’re looking at what “is” working. Let's move on up the scale—what about grief? Autumn: Grief is fascinating because it’s universal; everyone goes through it. But it can really become a blockage when it gets people stuck in cycles of blame, anger, and guilt. Hawkins illustrates this with the story of a mother grieving the loss of her child. Rachel: Wow, that's heavy... what made her grief so unmanageable? Autumn: Her grief had become intertwined with anger—anger at the doctors, herself, at God, and even at her child. That anger started to strain her marriage and her relationship with her husband. She wasn’t just dealing with the loss; she was resisting it completely. Rachel: Right, so resisting the emotion was actually feeding it. How did she even begin to break free from that? Autumn: Acceptance was her turning point. She confronted the pain beneath her anger, acknowledging the fullness of her loss. She recognized that her grief, even though painful, really pointed to the love she had for her child. That helped her stop blaming herself, allowing her to reconnect with her husband and start healing. Rachel: That makes sense. Suppressing it sounds like trying to keep a lid on a pressure cooker—it’s gotta blow eventually. What techniques does Hawkins recommend for navigating grief more healthily? Autumn: He really encourages fully experiencing the grief without judgment or trying to suppress it. Implementing rituals really helps too—like journaling, talking with trusted friends, or practicing meditation. And these create space for emotions to flow naturally. Over time, people can move through stages like denial, anger, and sadness until finally finding peace and acceptance. It’s not always linear, but it's still powerful. Rachel: Alright, let’s talk about fear—the sneaky one that's hiding in every corner of modern life, it seems. Autumn: Fear is… primal. It kept our ancestors safe, but today it can devolve into anxiety or self-doubt. People get really stuck when they avoid looking at it head-on. Hawkins shares a story about someone longing to relocate to a new city but was paralyzed by their fear of failure. Rachel: And was their fear tied to practical things, job security, or finances? Autumn: Partially, yes. But as they used the surrender process, they uncovered deeper layers: guilt about leaving family, pride masked as vulnerability. By allowing the fear to surface without resistance, it released its grip. Once that fear was released, they felt empowered to take a risk, which ended up being really successful. Rachel: So, surrendering fear means dissecting it, peeling back the layers. What practical steps does Hawkins suggest for actually countering fear? Autumn: Firstly, question the narrative driving the emotion. Ask, "What “am” I actually afraid of?" Writing it down is super helpful because it can clarify most fears that aren’t the threats they appear to be. Gratitude and meditation can also ground people in the moment, which counter fear by tending to live in the "what-ifs." Rachel: This all just keeps coming back to awareness, doesn't it? You can’t let go of something you don’t even know you’re holding onto. Autumn: Right! It’s about shifting your mindset from resistance to curiosity, which is crucial for breaking free from any emotional block, including anger. Rachel: Anger, the spicy one. It's got energy, but carrying it sounds like lugging around a ticking time bomb. Autumn: Exactly. Hawkins sees anger as a double-edged sword really, it’s got drive, but if it’s mismanaged, it can isolate people and create resentment. One story he shares is about a woman who clung to anger toward her husband for years because she felt unseen. Rachel: Sounds like passive-aggressiveness central. What turned it around for her? Autumn: She actually reframed her entire perspective. Instead of focusing on all the things she wasn’t getting—validation, acknowledgement—she began to see her acts of service as gifts she chose to give. That actually allowed her to drop her resentment, which led to healthier communication with her husband. Rachel: So anger morphed from a wrecking ball into a wreckage cleanup tool. Hawkins is really selling this whole “letting go” concept, isn't he? Autumn: Because it works! Anger dissolves when you actually trade it for forgiveness and understanding. Hawkins stresses that owning your feelings is crucial, because often what we’re blaming others for reflects unresolved issues in ourselves. Rachel: Alright, I’ll hand it to Hawkins. Surrender sounds less like weakness and a lot more like emotional aikido, redirecting energy to break down blockages instead of making them even bigger. Autumn: That’s a great analogy. It’s about harnessing what’s there and using those forces for transformation. And that applies across the board—apathy, grief, fear, and anger. By letting go, people liberate themselves from these blockages and open the door to growth.

Autumn: So, by mastering these techniques, we can actually elevate ourselves to higher emotional states. It seems we're now entering the realm of positivity, shifting our focus from overcoming challenges like fear and anger to embracing more elevated states such as acceptance, love, and peace, as Hawkins describes. Rachel: Right, so we’re talking about not just escaping the emotional basement, but actually building a penthouse with a view, huh? Progressing from simply surviving to truly thriving – that's the goal, right? Sounds ambitious. Okay, let's start with acceptance, which you mentioned Hawkins calls the gateway to harmony. Autumn: Absolutely, Rachel! This is really where everything comes together. It's not only about escaping negative emotions, but it will also teach you how to live positive, calm and happy. So let’s dive into acceptance! Hawkins describes it as the beginning to a peaceful life without conflicts. Rachel: Acceptance… but we're not talking about just throwing our hands up in the air and giving up, are we? Because I know some people equate "acceptance" with resignation. Autumn: You’re spot on, Rachel! Acceptance isn’t about surrendering or admitting defeat. It's truly about adapting – and changing your perspective and how you deal with things. Hawkins defines it as recognizing life as is, without resistance or judgment. Think of it as facing a storm head-on – accept you can't stop the rain, but you can choose how you respond. Rachel: So, less of a “why me?” and more of an “okay, this is happening – what’s my next move?” Autumn: Precisely, Rachel! Hawkins gave an example of a man who was struggling with his career. He would measure his value based on what others achieved. This would make him feel insecure, anxious, and not good enough Rachel: Ugh, sounds familiar. What was the turning point for him? Autumn: Practicing emotional and mental surrender enabled him to give up the idea of needing external validation. Even if his contributions weren't noticed, he started to see the value in his work. This change in mindset allowed him to welcome his value, bringing more creativity and a lighter perspective to his work and improving his relationships. Rachel: Right, I hear you. But how does someone even begin to chip away at such deep-seated insecurity? It's not like flipping a switch and chanting "I accept this" three times will magically fix it. Autumn: You are right. It’s a gradual process. Hawkins suggests things like self-reflection, so you could ask "What am I resisting right now?". And, you know, mindfulness, too – focusing on the present and not dwelling on “what ifs”. Also, affirmations like “I accept myself as I am” can help reinforce this mindset. Rachel: I get the theory, but what happens when life throws you a curveball, like, say, a major crisis? Autumn: That’s a fair point. Acceptance doesn’t necessarily mean suppressing the pain, but it means that you are aware of the pain and you decide not to let it consume you. Remember when we were talking about emotional aikido? It's the same concept—direct, don't resist. That's where acceptance is important, Rachel—it lets you align with reality, turning “really” tough situations into more manageable ones. Rachel: Okay, that makes sense. Acceptance is like having a solid base to build on. But Hawkins then kicks it up a notch with love. I'm guessing we're talking about cosmic, all-encompassing love here, not the rom-com type, right? Autumn: Exactly, Rachel. Love, to Hawkins, goes beyond surface-level infatuation. It’s about developing an unconditional state of being with compassion and empathy. Love isn't just a passing emotion but something you embody. Rachel: That's pretty profound. Does Hawkins give an example of how this kind of love plays out in real life? Autumn: Yes! He tells this lovely story of a hunter who suddenly witnessed a truly incredible moment of compassion in nature, when he saw a female risk her own life to protect her injured mate. This changed the way he saw things. All the survival instincts he learned by hunting were challenged. This moment changed his perspective, and he gave up hunting. Rachel: A duck changed his whole life? That's... unexpected, to say the least. Autumn: Exactly! But that’s the thing. True love, with no conditions attached, can appear in the most unexpected times. Something inside him was awakened by the duck. Love is all around us, and not just in our relationships. Rachel: Ok, I see. So, it's less about greeting cards and more about actually connecting to something bigger. So how do people even start to grow something so profound? Autumn: It starts with small kindnesses. Focus on the compassion, beauty, and connection around you. Shift your mindset to appreciation. Another thing is forgiveness, which will free you from resentment. Rachel: "Giving without expecting anything back" sounds really noble, but also pretty difficult. Especially when you feel like life's been particularly unfair. Autumn: Exactly! That's when choosing to respond with love instead of resentment can be helpful! That would change everything. Love allows you to expand your view from "me" to "we." Rachel: Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so we’ve climbed to the peak with peace. What does peace even look like in Hawkins’ world? Autumn: Peace is when you fully surrender – it is the total absence of conflict, that inner resistance. And life flows effortlessly. As Hawkins describes it, it is like a sense of unshakable satisfaction that you can feel even when things are chaotic. Rachel: Sounds almost… unattainable, doesn't it. Is peace just a fleeting feeling, or is it something you can actually hold onto? Autumn: It's a state that you can maintain, but, you know, it requires fully surrendering. Hawkins talks about a woman who experienced this when she was healing. She was meditating in her garden and she suddenly felt at peace. Her stress suddenly disappeared. She felt clarity and self-acceptance. Rachel: So, peace sort of crept up on her when she least expected it. But, how do you hold onto that stillness once meditation is over? Autumn: Continuing to meditate, and learning to relinquish control. Hawkins emphasizes that peace comes naturally when we aren't spending all our energy trying to control every little thing, and instead, trust that life will unfold as it should. Rachel: Alright, I'll admit, that level of calm sounds pretty tempting. But, is peace contagious? If you're super Zen, will that rub off on, say, the person yelling at you in traffic? Autumn: Actually, Hawkins does talk about something called “silent transmission,” where people who embody peace influence others around them just by being themselves. Rachel: Ah, so peace is like the Wi-Fi of emotions – signal strength matters. Autumn: Exactly! It’s not just a personal state, it has a ripple effect. When we express those higher states, acceptance, peace and love, it changes us and it changes the people around us. And that’s the real potential of this spiritual and emotional journey.

Autumn: So, once we elevate our consciousness, it naturally starts to show up in our day-to-day lives, right? Hawkins really drives this home in the book's later chapters. He wants us to take these concepts and actually “live” them. Let’s dive into how surrender can transform our relationships, career goals, and even our ability to heal ourselves. Rachel: Okay, I'm listening, but you know me, always a bit skeptical. Relationships are first up? Perfect, because that's usually where the real emotional fireworks happen. Hawkins talks about surrendering expectations...which, yeah, sounds amazing in theory. But what happens when the rubber meets the road and a conflict erupts? Autumn: Well, Hawkins shares this story of someone trapped by jealousy in their relationship. They were constantly needing reassurance from their partner, which, of course, just ratcheted up the tension. Eventually, they realized their insecurity and need for control came from a deep-seated fear of being unworthy. By surrendering to this fear – not pushing it down or pretending it wasn't there, but truly feeling it and letting it pass – they stopped projecting all that onto their partner. Rachel: Ah, so the jealousy wasn't actually about their partner at all! It was a reflection of their own baggage. The classic "it's not you, it's me" situation. What changed? Autumn: Once they let go of that "not good enough" feeling, they could approach disagreements with an open mind instead of going straight to defense mode. Their partner felt less suffocated, more appreciated. The relationship just shifted into a healthier space once that emotional chokehold of jealousy was gone. Hawkins suggests a cool exercise for anyone dealing with this: think about what you're expecting from the other person, and then ask yourself, "Am I placing my own limitations on them?" Letting go of those expectations makes room for real connection. Rachel: That sounds incredibly freeing, but also, let's be honest, kind of scary. Surrendering expectations feels a lot like giving up control, and for many, control equals safety. Autumn: That's a valid fear, absolutely. But Hawkins would argue that the need for control is what stirs up all the emotional drama. When you release control, you're not sacrificing safety; you're actually redefining it. True emotional safety springs from trust, not from trying to manage every single outcome. Turns out, in this case, trust was the antidote to the jealousy. Rachel: Alright, you've convinced me...for now. Let's talk about work. What does surrender actually look like in a professional setting? I’m picturing someone about to have a meltdown during a presentation, then just letting go and suddenly channeling their inner Steve Jobs. Autumn: Not too far off! Think of surrender in the workplace as letting go of those negative emotions like envy or fear of screwing up. Hawkins gives the example of someone who was consumed by envy after a colleague nailed a promotion and they didn't. They were stuck in this loop of resentment and self-doubt, which tanked their productivity. So, what did they do? They looked inward, really acknowledged the envy, and then stopped feeding it by focusing on their own contributions. Rachel: Hold on - they just... decided to stop being envious? That sounds incredibly simplistic. Autumn: It’s less about "deciding" and more about surrendering the compulsion to compare. Envy thrives on the belief that someone else's win somehow diminishes your own chances. By reframing their feelings, this person redirected their energy back into their own work, stopped obsessing over their peers, and reignited their creativity. That led to recognition, not necessarily because they were grinding harder, but because they were approaching their work with genuine passion instead of bitterness. Rachel: Okay, I can see that. But how can you separate envy from ambition? Isn’t there a fine line between wanting to achieve more and measuring yourself against others? Autumn: Ah, Hawkins gets into that, too. Ambition fueled by collaboration and personal growth? That's not the problem. The issue arises when your ambition is based on this need to "win" or prove someone wrong. He suggests surrendering your attachment to specific outcomes – letting go of needing to control who gets what – allows you to focus on being the best version of yourself without getting sidetracked by comparison. Rachel: So, it’s like the old marathon metaphor: run your own race, not someone else’s. I get it. Okay, let’s change gears – what about health? You’ve piqued my interest with that doctor and his chronic illnesses... Did surrender really play a major role in his getting better? Autumn: Absolutely. The physician’s story is powerful because, despite all his medical expertise, he couldn't heal himself. His chronic pain came from suppressing emotions for years, especially guilt and compassion fatigue. He felt like he had to save every single patient, and that guilt weighed him down. Rachel: That kind of guilt... I can’t imagine. How did he break free from that? Autumn: He started practicing daily surrender. The pivotal moment came during a really bad diverticulitis flare-up. Instead of immediately reaching for the usual quick fixes, he sat with the pain and started pinpointing the unprocessed emotions fueling it – specifically, his guilt and perfectionism. As he allowed himself to fully experience the physical and emotional pain, reframing it as a chance to release old burdens, his symptoms began to ease. Rachel: Wow... so he faced the pain head-on instead of numbing it. That takes guts. But was the healing lasting, or was it just a one-time thing? Autumn: It was lasting because he made surrender a consistent part of his life. Hawkins explains that by continuously acknowledging and processing emotions, instead of stuffing them down, the underlying causes of physical ailments often lose their power. Of course, that doesn't mean you ditch medical treatment, but integrating surrender can support that treatment by addressing the emotional stress that can make illness worse. Rachel: I'm noticing a pattern here – it's all about identifying the underlying narratives behind these emotional and physical blockages. Whether it's envy, jealousy, or chronic pain, the story you're telling yourself needs to shift if you want to heal. Autumn: Exactly! Hawkins sums it up beautifully: release resistance, and what remains is balance. Whether we're talking about relationships, work, or health, surrender opens us up to that sense of equilibrium. It's not a passive act; it's a dynamic process.

Autumn: Alright, so to recap, today we dove deep into David R. Hawkins’ “Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender,” and how it can really be a guide to emotional freedom and personal transformation. We talked about understanding emotions as sort of survival tools, and how they impact our lives. Then we explored ways to overcome emotional roadblocks, like fear and anger, and how the book guides us towards higher states like acceptance, love, and peace. And finally, we tied all of this back to real-life examples in relationships, at work, and even in physical healing. Rachel: Yeah, you know, what really struck me is that this idea of "letting go" isn't about throwing in the towel. It's actually about showing up – being present, being open, and not fighting what is. Whether you're dealing with deep grief, feeling stuck and unmotivated, or stressed out at work, surrendering can be a way to find clarity and move forward. It's less about "fixing" your emotions and more about releasing their hold on you. Autumn: Exactly! And here’s something to consider: next time you’re hit with a difficult emotion, try pausing and just focusing on feeling it without judging it. Just let it be. You might find that surrender doesn't make you weaker, but actually sets you free. Rachel: So, maybe take a moment to think about what you're holding onto right now. Ask yourself, is it really worth the energy it's costing you? Or even better, what could happen if you chose to just let it go? Autumn: That’s such a crucial question, Rachel. And with that, we really hope that today's conversation inspires you to explore what surrendering might unlock in your own life.